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On Saturday, June 24, 2023 at 8:43:41 PM UTC+10, Max Demian wrote:
On 23/06/2023 16:02, John Larkin wrote:
On Fri, 23 Jun 2023 07:14:59 +0100, \"Commander Kinsey\"
C...@nospam.com> wrote:
On Mon, 29 May 2023 17:05:12 +0100, John Larkin <jla...@highlandsnipmetechnology.com> wrote:

You should meet a better class of women. Try.

Those are very rare.

Nature has thoughtfully arranged that there is a good mate for just
about anyone. But the farther out on the distribution you happen to
be, the harder it will be to find that good mate. So you have to shop
around.

The mistake I see some people making is \"I\'m lonely, so I\'ll latch
onto the first person I see walking down the street\".

I qualify opamps more carefully than some people qualify spouses.

Once upon a time people had four arms, four legs, two faces and two sets of genitalia.

Greek mythology has claimed this. It is total nonsense.

> There were males, females and hermaphrodites. They offended the Gods, who split them all into two.

Not that we can detect any sign of this in human DNA.

> The faces and genitalia were moved to the new front, and where they were joined was gathered up and became the navel.

Greek mythology does get poetic.

> We just have to find our \"other half\".

What a cute rationalisation. How unfortunate that it happens to be mythological bilge.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney
 
On Saturday, June 24, 2023 at 9:07:02 PM UTC+10, John Larkin wrote:
On Sat, 24 Jun 2023 11:43:32 +0100, Max Demian <max_d...@bigfoot.com> wrote:
On 23/06/2023 16:02, John Larkin wrote:
On Fri, 23 Jun 2023 07:14:59 +0100, \"Commander Kinsey\" <C...@nospam.com> wrote:
On Mon, 29 May 2023 17:05:12 +0100, John Larkin <jla...@highlandsnipmetechnology.com> wrote:

<snip>

> I recently read a paper that explains why most critters (and most plants) have two sexes. Evolution found that to be optimum. I\'ll see if I can find it.

Don\'t bother. Two sexes allow us to shuffle our DNA, which give enough variation in each generation to let us adapt to a changing environment. Asexual reproduction - cloning - doesn\'t. Evolution isn\'t great at optimisation - it finds good enough solutions and sticks with them.

Optimisation programs need mechanisms to reach beyond the local optimum, and evolution hasn\'t come up with that yet, any more than it has come up with error-detecting and -correcting data coding.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney
 
On Sat, 24 Jun 2023 04:06:38 -0700, John Larkin
<jlarkin@highlandSNIPMEtechnology.com> wrote:

On Sat, 24 Jun 2023 11:43:32 +0100, Max Demian
max_demian@bigfoot.com> wrote:

On 23/06/2023 16:02, John Larkin wrote:
On Fri, 23 Jun 2023 07:14:59 +0100, \"Commander Kinsey\"
CK1@nospam.com> wrote:
On Mon, 29 May 2023 17:05:12 +0100, John Larkin <jlarkin@highlandsnipmetechnology.com> wrote:

You should meet a better class of women. Try.

Those are very rare.

Nature has thoughtfully arranged that there is a good mate for just
about anyone. But the farther out on the distribution you happen to
be, the harder it will be to find that good mate. So you have to shop
around.

The mistake I see some people making is \"I\'m lonely, so I\'ll latch
onto the first person I see walking down the street\".

I qualify opamps more carefully than some people qualify spouses.

Once upon a time people had four arms, four legs, two faces and two sets
of genitalia. There were males, females and hermaphrodites. They
offended the Gods, who split them all into two. The faces and genitalia
were moved to the new front, and where they were joined was gathered up
and became the navel.

We just have to find our \"other half\".

I recently read a paper that explains why most critters (and most
plants) have two sexes. Evolution found that to be optimum. I\'ll see
if I can find it.

I\'ve read similar articles, from the Evolutionary Genetics field of
research. The problem solved is handling parasites (including
bacteria and viruses), which evolve far faster than big multi cellular
critters.

Having multiple sexes causes the population to become very diverse
genetically, so no one parasite can infect all members of that
population.

Here is an article from 2008:

Sexual Reproduction and the Evolution of Sex - Birds do it, and bees
do it. Indeed, researchers estimate that over 99.9% of eukaryotes
reproduce sexually. What, then, are the true costs and benefits of
sex?

..<https://www.nature.com/scitable/topicpage/sexual-reproduction-and-the-evolution-of-sex-824/>

Joe Gwinn
 
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On Thu, 15 Jun 2023 03:26:28 +0100, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:

On Wed, 14 Jun 2023 18:36:47 +0100, Commander Kinsey wrote:

I\'ve never seen that in the ingredients list, although we might call it
something else. I assumed the creamy texture was the fat.

https://kitcheninstincts.com/cottage-cheese-brands-without-carrageenan/

The tub I have in the refrigerator has carraeenan, guar gum, and carob gum. Hasn\'t killed me yet. You might see it a E407 or Irish moss.

https://baltimoregon.com/2015/03/30/irish-moss-blanc-mange-and-panna-cotta-with-agar-agar-vegan-seaweed-says-move-over-gelatin/

Whe I lived near the coast I\'d harvest the Irish moss off the rocks.

FFS! I\'m trying to cut down on my massive cheese bill and now I go and read this! £70 a month on cottage cheese alone is absurd.
 
On Sat, 27 May 2023 11:52:06 +0100, Max Demian <max_demian@bigfoot.com> wrote:

On 27/05/2023 02:52, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Sun, 23 Apr 2023 10:33:22 +0100, Cindy Hamilton
hamilton@invalid.com> wrote:

On 2023-04-22, John Larkin <jlarkin@highlandSNIPMEtechnology.com> wrote:
On Sat, 22 Apr 2023 21:10:07 GMT, Cindy Hamilton
hamilton@invalid.com> wrote:

On 2023-04-22, John Larkin <jlarkin@highlandSNIPMEtechnology.com
wrote:
Safeway is for bulk shopping, milk and paper towels. Their rotesserie
chickens are OK and make great broth.

For you, perhaps. Millions of people use it for all their groceries.

We like farmers\' markets for good stuff. And the Farm Box weekly
delivery.

Safeway tends to have good stuff for a while and then replace it with
a house brand. Try to find World\'s Best Mac and Cheese, which Safeway
used to have.

Unlikely. I don\'t like mac and cheese. Never have.

I never twigged what that was. Over here we call it \"macaroni and
cheese\" because that\'s what it is.

No we don\'t. We call it \"macaroni cheese\". entirely \"and\" free.

I\'m well aware of that Mr OCD. I just failed to remember to remove the and after translating from American.

I wonder why they don\'t call it Mac Cheese, probably copyrighted by the cunts who think they have the right to close down a private little family owned cafe called MacDonalds, owned by a Mrs MacDonald.

> Of course it *isn\'t* just macaroni and cheese, there are other ingredients.

But not important ones. Nobody says I\'m buying some \"bread and E147\".

Americans are very keen on it, and you can buy a kit of parts to make
it. I don\'t know what they use for cheese, though.

I buy it in kit form, made by Bachelors, tastier than home made stuff I\'ve had. They simply dry all the non-macaroni ingredients.
 
On Sat, 27 May 2023 12:02:43 +0100, The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:

On 27/05/2023 11:52, Max Demian wrote:
On 27/05/2023 02:52, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Sun, 23 Apr 2023 10:33:22 +0100, Cindy Hamilton
hamilton@invalid.com> wrote:

On 2023-04-22, John Larkin <jlarkin@highlandSNIPMEtechnology.com> wrote:
On Sat, 22 Apr 2023 21:10:07 GMT, Cindy Hamilton
hamilton@invalid.com> wrote:

On 2023-04-22, John Larkin <jlarkin@highlandSNIPMEtechnology.com
wrote:
Safeway is for bulk shopping, milk and paper towels. Their rotesserie
chickens are OK and make great broth.

For you, perhaps. Millions of people use it for all their groceries.

We like farmers\' markets for good stuff. And the Farm Box weekly
delivery.

Safeway tends to have good stuff for a while and then replace it with
a house brand. Try to find World\'s Best Mac and Cheese, which Safeway
used to have.

Unlikely. I don\'t like mac and cheese. Never have.

I never twigged what that was. Over here we call it \"macaroni and
cheese\" because that\'s what it is.

No we don\'t. We call it \"macaroni cheese\". entirely \"and\" free. Of
course it *isn\'t* just macaroni and cheese, there are other ingredients.

Americans are very keen on it, and you can buy a kit of parts to make
it. I don\'t know what they use for cheese, though.

Kit of parts? Blimey,! Doesn\'t everyone have cheese, egg, milk, flour,
mustard and nutmeg in their cupboards?
Decorate it with tomato and chorizo before baking.

Far too much hassle, especially if you\'re hungry!
 
On Sat, 27 May 2023 18:05:06 +0100, John Larkin <jlarkin@highlandsnipmetechnology.com> wrote:

On Sat, 27 May 2023 12:27:22 -0400, Phil Hobbs
pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> wrote:

On 2023-05-27 06:52, Max Demian wrote:
On 27/05/2023 02:52, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Sun, 23 Apr 2023 10:33:22 +0100, Cindy Hamilton
hamilton@invalid.com> wrote:

On 2023-04-22, John Larkin <jlarkin@highlandSNIPMEtechnology.com> wrote:
On Sat, 22 Apr 2023 21:10:07 GMT, Cindy Hamilton
hamilton@invalid.com> wrote:

On 2023-04-22, John Larkin <jlarkin@highlandSNIPMEtechnology.com
wrote:
Safeway is for bulk shopping, milk and paper towels. Their rotesserie
chickens are OK and make great broth.

For you, perhaps. Millions of people use it for all their groceries.

We like farmers\' markets for good stuff. And the Farm Box weekly
delivery.

Safeway tends to have good stuff for a while and then replace it with
a house brand. Try to find World\'s Best Mac and Cheese, which Safeway
used to have.

Unlikely. I don\'t like mac and cheese. Never have.

I never twigged what that was. Over here we call it \"macaroni and
cheese\" because that\'s what it is.

No we don\'t. We call it \"macaroni cheese\". entirely \"and\" free. Of
course it *isn\'t* just macaroni and cheese, there are other ingredients.

Americans are very keen on it, and you can buy a kit of parts to make
it. I don\'t know what they use for cheese, though.


It\'s the toasted buttered breadcrumbs on top that make it, plus the
caramelized Cheddar + jack cheese on the bottom.

Best eaten with a generous amount of Worcester sauce and a small amount
of ketchup.(*)

Cheers

Phil Hobbs

(*) Bewildered Frenchman: \"It\'s a sort of tomato sauce that Americans
put on everything!\"

They call it compot de tomat or something frenchy like that.

I would of guessed that\'s composted tomato.
 
On Sat, 27 May 2023 16:10:26 +0100, John Larkin <jlarkin@highlandsnipmetechnology.com> wrote:

On Sat, 27 May 2023 12:34:18 +0100, The Natural Philosopher
tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:

On 27/05/2023 12:18, John Larkin wrote:
On Sat, 27 May 2023 11:52:06 +0100, Max Demian
max_demian@bigfoot.com> wrote:

On 27/05/2023 02:52, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Sun, 23 Apr 2023 10:33:22 +0100, Cindy Hamilton
hamilton@invalid.com> wrote:

On 2023-04-22, John Larkin <jlarkin@highlandSNIPMEtechnology.com> wrote:
On Sat, 22 Apr 2023 21:10:07 GMT, Cindy Hamilton
hamilton@invalid.com> wrote:

On 2023-04-22, John Larkin <jlarkin@highlandSNIPMEtechnology.com
wrote:
Safeway is for bulk shopping, milk and paper towels. Their rotesserie
chickens are OK and make great broth.

For you, perhaps. Millions of people use it for all their groceries.

We like farmers\' markets for good stuff. And the Farm Box weekly
delivery.

Safeway tends to have good stuff for a while and then replace it with
a house brand. Try to find World\'s Best Mac and Cheese, which Safeway
used to have.

Unlikely. I don\'t like mac and cheese. Never have.

I never twigged what that was. Over here we call it \"macaroni and
cheese\" because that\'s what it is.

No we don\'t. We call it \"macaroni cheese\". entirely \"and\" free. Of
course it *isn\'t* just macaroni and cheese, there are other ingredients.

Americans are very keen on it, and you can buy a kit of parts to make
it. I don\'t know what they use for cheese, though.

Frozen is easy, and some brands are excellent.

https://beechershandmadecheese.com/products/worlds-best-mac-and-cheese

We say mac and cheese

I\'ve never said that in my life.

Well, people talk funny in remote uncivilized islands.

You mean bothering to say macaroni? Yes I know, it\'s unfair to ask an American to pronounce three syllables in one go.

Always \'spaghetti cheese\' or \'macaroni
cheese\'
A staple food post war with rationing, when dairy and eggs and pasta
made of low grade wheat were UK produced products that you could
actually buy. Cheaply.

We never had food rationing.

Are you in England? I wonder why England can\'t grow enough food to
feed itself. The population density isn\'t extreme.

If you only count the English, you would be correct. But we keep letting the foreigners in. The island is fucking well full, go back to your own country!
 
On Sat, 27 May 2023 17:35:01 +0100, Ed P <esp@snet.xxx> wrote:

On 5/27/2023 11:10 AM, John Larkin wrote:
On Sat, 27 May 2023 12:34:18 +0100, The Natural Philosopher
tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:

On 27/05/2023 12:18, John Larkin wrote:
On Sat, 27 May 2023 11:52:06 +0100, Max Demian
max_demian@bigfoot.com> wrote:

No we don\'t. We call it \"macaroni cheese\". entirely \"and\" free. Of
course it *isn\'t* just macaroni and cheese, there are other ingredients.

Americans are very keen on it, and you can buy a kit of parts to make
it. I don\'t know what they use for cheese, though.

Frozen is easy, and some brands are excellent.

https://beechershandmadecheese.com/products/worlds-best-mac-and-cheese

We say mac and cheese

I\'ve never said that in my life.

Well, people talk funny in remote uncivilized islands.


Always \'spaghetti cheese\' or \'macaroni
cheese\'
A staple food post war with rationing, when dairy and eggs and pasta
made of low grade wheat were UK produced products that you could
actually buy. Cheaply.

We never had food rationing.

The government began rationing certain foods in May 1942, starting with
sugar. Coffee was added to the list that November, followed by meats,
fats, canned fish, cheese, and canned milk the following March.



Are you in England? I wonder why England can\'t grow enough food to
feed itself. The population density isn\'t extreme.

One reason is they like to eat things they cannot grow. It is not just
population density it is climate and soil.

When was the last time Britain fed itself?
Probably the early 19th century. Though it raises the question: where’s
the boundary? The British Isles? Europe? Scotland wouldn’t do well
alone, because most of the UK’s arable land is in the south.

Scotland would do very well indeed, because it isn\'t as overpopulated as England.
 
On Sat, 27 May 2023 18:10:23 +0100, Gerhard Hoffmann <dk4xp@arcor.de> wrote:

Am 27.05.23 um 17:39 schrieb The Natural Philosopher:
On 27/05/2023 16:10, John Larkin wrote:

Well, people talk funny in remote uncivilized islands.

Are you in England? I wonder why England can\'t grow enough food to
feed itself. The population density isn\'t extreme.

The population density of the bits suitable for agricultural activity is
extreme.
Nearly all of Scotland, half of Wales and a fair bit of England is
barely upland grazing suitable.

The Lords, Ladies and Gentlemen kicked out Scottish crofters to the USA
in ancient times because sheep generated revenue without asking for
their share and took care of themselves.

The efficiency of the actual farms is massive in terms of yield per
acre. But the government keeps importing cheap labour that doesn\'t want
to work, so the population is now completely out of control

It\'s more that it worked as long as the cheap workers from Poland,

They are happy and good at working hard, so let them. Better than using Irish, they\'re thick as fuck.

UA e.a. were allowed to do the dirty jobs. Now that they are un-imported it
shows that the Lords, Ladies and Gentlemen
are unwilling to crawl through the fields or to drive trucks all day
long because it smells like real work.

When I were a lad, the binmen lifted the bins. Now it\'s hydraulic. Lazy bastards.

We were importing sheep from Australia and New Zealand and Beef from
Argentina, fruit from South Africa, and bananas from the Caribbean.
Until we joined the EU of course. No longer allowed.

No longer allowed? How does the EU hinder you? Just do it, if you can..
No one cares. And when there are no tomatoes in GB supermarkets, just
find some Lords to drive the trucks from Southern Spain to Dover or
wherever and bring them over your frontier before they are rotten.

BTW: I assume, the NHS is in stellar shape, now that the claimed 350
MPounds a week are invested there? You remember the red election tour
bus, don\'t you?

It\'s high time the NHS was deleted. he average taxpayer pays in £300 a month to the NHS. I can\'t think of anyone who\'s got remotely that back out. We\'d all be better off paying privately if and when we need it.
 
On Sun, 18 Jun 2023 07:07:19 +0100, Jasen Betts <usenet@revmaps.no-ip.org> wrote:

On 2023-06-17, Commander Kinsey <CK1@nospam.com> wrote:
On Sun, 21 May 2023 11:49:24 +0100, Max Demian <max_demian@bigfoot.com> wrote:

On 21/05/2023 05:01, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Sun, 23 Apr 2023 00:10:29 +0100, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:

On Sat, 22 Apr 2023 11:50:18 -0700, John Larkin wrote:

A long time ago in the USA, margerine was white and it was illegal to
color it. Sometimes it was sold with a little capsule of yellow die that
people could mix in themselves.

My mother would solemnly swear she never used anything but butter for
Christmas cookies but I distinctly remember her kneading the dye into a
bag of margarine.

I tried to buy margarine and came across a fucked up EU directive. You
can\'t sell it as margarine unless it\'s x% fat. FFS what else do you
call it?

They never call margarine margarine. It\'s always just \"spread\".
Searching supermarket websites for \"margarine\" finds it though.

They used to sell a low fat spread that was mostly water. OK on bread,
but it disintegrated on toast or a jacket potato.

I buy \"Anchor Spreadable\" now. They\'re not allowed to call it butter,
though it\'s half butter (the other half vegetable oil). Rather
expensive, and, if you have a blender, I\'m told you can make it
yourself. It \"spreads straight from the fridge\" though, and it tastes good.

Not allowed to call it butter indeed. Why has the world gone so childish?

Possibly the people making pure soft butters object to blended spreads
being called butter.

Tell them to fuck off. They can call theirs \"natural butter\" or \"dairy butter\".

https://www.countdown.co.nz/shop/productdetails?stockcode=3979&store=9292

Ingredienrs: Pasteurised Cream (Milk), Salt

Why do they assume anyone with an allergy is an idiot? Of course cream contains milk! I even saw \"contains wheat\" on wheat biscuits! We don\'t want stupid people to survive. Let them have an anaphylactic shock.
 
On Sat, 27 May 2023 22:33:44 +0100, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:

On Sat, 27 May 2023 08:10:26 -0700, John Larkin wrote:

We never had food rationing.

Certainly we did.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rationing_in_the_United_States

My parents kept chickens and also had a vegetable garden. Eggs or chickens
could be bartered for sugar and other commodities.

One of the family stories told how my father had acquired a 5 gallon tin
of motor oil through barter. All was good until my mother went to the
garage one day and saw a rat sitting on the can. She hated mice and rats
although they went hand in hand with raising chickens. Being a self-
sufficient woman she got her 16 gauge and blew the rat to hell, along with
most of the oil can.

Footnote: although it has almost vanished today a 16 gauge was considered
a ladies shotgun; my father and I used 12s.

You and your silly guages. You still use that American Wire Guage crap, where the higher number is smaller!
 
On Fri, 23 Jun 2023 13:49:07 +0100, Max Demian <max_demian@bigfoot.com> wrote:

On 23/06/2023 07:11, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Sat, 27 May 2023 14:31:35 +0100, Cindy Hamilton
hamilton@invalid.com> wrote:
On 2023-05-27, Max Demian <max_demian@bigfoot.com> wrote:
On 27/05/2023 02:52, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Sun, 23 Apr 2023 16:31:48 +0100, Ed P <esp@snet.xxx> wrote:
On 4/23/2023 10:22 AM, John Larkin wrote:

Not me. I don\'t like heavy, acidic flavors. I am biased towards
sweet,
creamy, smooth. Mo is Italian and makes heavy red sauces that she
simmers down for hours. My fix is to dilute them about 3:1 with heavy
cream and add cheeses and garlic and tweak the spices, a light orange
color when it\'s edible.

My wife used to make a good sauce but it never seemed overly acidic.

Do our mouths have litmus paper?

No, because we\'d need eyes in our mouths to see the colour change.

We can detect acids, though. I\'m not sure whether we can distinguish
them from alkalis, though. I\'ll have to try licking some caustic soda.

Acids are sour. Bases are bitter.

There you go, I can detect sour and bitter, but I couldn\'t tell you if
it was acidic or just sour.

There isn\'t any difference unless you can smell it.

(A few years ago I entirely lost the ability to smell sour milk. It can
go solid or blobby in beverages before I can tell. I can taste it\'s sour
though.)

You smell it when it\'s in your mouth, provided you\'re breathing at the same time, giving you time to spit it out. I feel rather off all day if I drink sour milk.
 
On Fri, 23 Jun 2023 13:49:07 +0100, Max Demian <max_demian@bigfoot.com> wrote:

On 23/06/2023 07:11, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Sat, 27 May 2023 14:31:35 +0100, Cindy Hamilton
hamilton@invalid.com> wrote:
On 2023-05-27, Max Demian <max_demian@bigfoot.com> wrote:
On 27/05/2023 02:52, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Sun, 23 Apr 2023 16:31:48 +0100, Ed P <esp@snet.xxx> wrote:
On 4/23/2023 10:22 AM, John Larkin wrote:

Not me. I don\'t like heavy, acidic flavors. I am biased towards
sweet,
creamy, smooth. Mo is Italian and makes heavy red sauces that she
simmers down for hours. My fix is to dilute them about 3:1 with heavy
cream and add cheeses and garlic and tweak the spices, a light orange
color when it\'s edible.

My wife used to make a good sauce but it never seemed overly acidic.

Do our mouths have litmus paper?

No, because we\'d need eyes in our mouths to see the colour change.

We can detect acids, though. I\'m not sure whether we can distinguish
them from alkalis, though. I\'ll have to try licking some caustic soda.

Acids are sour. Bases are bitter.

There you go, I can detect sour and bitter, but I couldn\'t tell you if
it was acidic or just sour.

There isn\'t any difference unless you can smell it.

(A few years ago I entirely lost the ability to smell sour milk. It can
go solid or blobby in beverages before I can tell. I can taste it\'s sour
though.)

Milk can be frozen without losing flavour (unlike cottage cheese). You can also buy filtered milk which lasts longer.
 
In article <op.18inm7bemvhs6z@ryzen>, CK1@nospam.com says...
You and your silly guages. You still use that American Wire Guage crap, where the higher number is smaller!

For shotguns it is logical. The gage is how many balls of the diameter
of the barrel will weigh a pound.
 
In message <op.18inm7bemvhs6z@ryzen>, Commander Kinsey <CK1@nospam.com>
writes
On Sat, 27 May 2023 22:33:44 +0100, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:

On Sat, 27 May 2023 08:10:26 -0700, John Larkin wrote:

We never had food rationing.

Certainly we did.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rationing_in_the_United_States

My parents kept chickens and also had a vegetable garden. Eggs or chickens
could be bartered for sugar and other commodities.

One of the family stories told how my father had acquired a 5 gallon tin
of motor oil through barter. All was good until my mother went to the
garage one day and saw a rat sitting on the can. She hated mice and rats
although they went hand in hand with raising chickens. Being a self-
sufficient woman she got her 16 gauge and blew the rat to hell, along with
most of the oil can.

Footnote: although it has almost vanished today a 16 gauge was considered
a ladies shotgun; my father and I used 12s.

You and your silly guages. You still use that American Wire Guage
crap, where the higher number is smaller!

The British Standard Wire Gauge (SWG) does exactly the same, ie more is
less.
--
Ian
Aims and ambitions are neither attainments nor achievements
 
In message <op.18intzjrmvhs6z@ryzen>, Commander Kinsey <CK1@nospam.com>
writes


Milk can be frozen without losing flavour (unlike cottage cheese). You
can also buy filtered milk which lasts longer.

Indeed. We get a (single) delivery of five 2-pint bottles each week, and
they go straight in the freezer. They are subsequently transferred (as
required) join the tail end of a row of four in the fridge, where they
slowly thaw out, and get moved up the queue when the oldest is empty and
removed.
--
Ian
Aims and ambitions are neither attainments nor achievements
 
On 23/07/2023 08:19, Ian Jackson wrote:
In message <op.18inm7bemvhs6z@ryzen>, Commander Kinsey <CK1@nospam.com
writes
On Sat, 27 May 2023 22:33:44 +0100, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:

On Sat, 27 May 2023 08:10:26 -0700, John Larkin wrote:

We never had food rationing.

Certainly we did.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rationing_in_the_United_States

My parents kept chickens and also had a vegetable garden. Eggs or
chickens
could be bartered for sugar and other commodities.

One of the family stories told how my father had acquired a 5 gallon tin
of motor oil through barter. All was good until my mother went to the
garage one day and saw a rat sitting on the can. She hated mice and rats
although they went hand in hand with raising chickens. Being a self-
sufficient woman she got her 16 gauge and blew the rat to hell, along
with
most of the oil can.

Footnote: although it has almost vanished today a 16 gauge was
considered
a ladies shotgun; my father and I used 12s.

You and your silly guages.  You still use that American Wire Guage
crap, where the higher number is smaller!

The British Standard Wire Gauge (SWG) does exactly the same, ie more is
less.
As did/do BA screws.


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Climate is what you expect but weather is what you get.
Mark Twain
 

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